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When a young man looking like this arrives at the airport with only carry-on luggage, and pays in cash for a one way ticket:
And he comes from a country that does things like this in the name of religion:
Then you might want to consider a secondary search, whether he's on your stupid no-fly list or not. Hey, I'm just saying.
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The guy did not look like that nor did he come from those countries.
ReplyDeleteYou are very stupid.
He may not have "looked" like them, but ALL of the other catagories hold ture. Like the 9/11 highjackers, he was a young male, who arrived at the airport with only carry-on luggage, payed in cash, for a one way ticket. Like all of the 9/11 hijackers, he came for a largly Muslim county, and identified with radical Islam. Falling into more than one of these catagories should be enough to trigger a secondary search. Don't you think?
ReplyDeletePerhaps the first commentor dosn't know that Nigeria is largley Muslim, and that the bomber was in fact Muslim, and was doing it in the name of Islam. It's basic info, but not everyone knows the basics.
ReplyDelete>He may not have "looked" like the
ReplyDeleteAnd what was the first line of your post?
>When a young man looking like this
My first point stands, you are very stupid.
And what you really mean is "Anyone who doesn't look like me shouldn't have the same rights as me because I'm afraid of them".
Grow a pair you little pussy, you have a better chance of being killed by a drunk driver than a terrorist.
Words for that sort of thing.
Ah yes, thank you for explaining what I "really mean". And of course, thank you for the vulgarity as well, it tells us a little bit about the quality of the person behind the comment.
ReplyDeleteAs for there being a small chance of dying from a crazy muslim terrorist attack. Well that is true. But we arrest drunk drivers, and we wear a seatbelt when we drive a car, even though there is little chance of harm. In fact, we wear a seatbelt as the plane takes off or during turbulence. It's called minimal precuations. Young Muslim males, traveling without their family, on a one way ticket paid in cash, with only carry-on luggage should be stoped and searched and questioned. There is no reason that the Swedish grandmother or the Japanese teenage girl, or the Indian Hidndu man, or anyone else not fitting the profile, should be pulled over had harrassed at the airport unless there is actionable intelligence. The problem is radical Islam, eminating from the Muslim community. Take a good look at the pictures above. Thear are the people who flew the planes on 9/11. All young Muslim males. The attacker on Christmas day was a young muslim male. To the extent that young Muslim males can be identified and they fall into the other cagagories as well, they should be pulled over and treated differently than everyone else in the security line, until this radical Islam Jihad comes to an end.
So you view the violation of Constitutional rights as "minimal precaution"? Well of course you do because it wouldn't be your rights being violated. Convenient huh?
ReplyDeleteSo by your logic anyone who looks like and has the same background as Timothy McVeigh should be suspect and treated as such?
How about anyone who is a loner with a gun? Should they go through special searches when they go to work? After all the crazies who shoot-up their offices have a great deal in common.
Oh and how many pro-life gunmen have there been? Guess you'd be cool with all pro-lifers being treated as potential assassins?
Plus retard when you have a security system you don't want to give it any sort of discernible pattern because if it has one than the bad guys can use that to their advantage.
Here's the reality, if someone is wiling to trade their lives for others there's not a lot a free society can do to protect itself from them. A police state or other sort of dictatorship can of course but we don't want to live like that do we?
Well we don't you would probably like that but until that dark day go and hide under your bed, quaking in fear of the scary Muslims that have you so petrified you'd cheerfully jettison American ideals. The rest of us will get on with the dangerous business of living free.
A little lesson. Foreign nationals boarding a plane in a foreign country are not entitled to US "constitutional rights." But I do appreciate your attempt to extend US constitutional rights to everyone on the planet, including foreign Muslim fanatics.
ReplyDeleteI also appreciate your self declaration of bravery. Very impressive. Althogh I did serve for three years in an airborne combat recon unit, I couldn’t possibly meet your heroic standards. But I'm sure all of the brave women and children that would have been blown out of the sky that day would be just as heroic as you. You da man!
Or is it possible that your unwillingness to confront these crazies has something to do with cowardice? Who knows? Right?
I am also very impressed with how you wrap yourself in "American Ideals". Some people think that wrapping ones self in the flag is the last refuge of a scoundrel, especially while willing to sacrifice women and children while doing so, but who am I judge?
I'll let the readers decide if GLOBAL JIHAD is the same as a pro-lifer or some domestic hate-group. Good luck with that one.
As for "discernable pattern" security. Hmmm, an expert on security as well! OK, I'll live with the Israeli system, which has not suffered a successful terror attack. And yes, they profile, among other things, young Muslim men traveling on a one way ticket, with only carry-on luggage. And we should too. YOUNG MUSLIM MEN.
>Foreign nationals boarding a plane in a foreign country are not entitled to US "constitutional rights."
ReplyDeleteHysterical, so the ideals of America are only for Americans that look like you and pray to your god? You'll note that the Declaration of Independence is actually universal in spirit. Furthermore do you know that anyone on American soil is instantly granted Constitutional protection regardless of citizenship? I suggest you read Ronald Reagan's "Shining City" speech for details.
Hmm I wonder did you feel that way when the invasion of Iraq was underway? Or did you gibber and howl about how America was fighting for freedom for the poor Iraqi people? I bet you did but of course that was just noise, what you really wanted was dead Muslims for you to watch on FoxNews.
>Althogh I did serve for three years in an airborne combat recon unit, I couldn’t possibly meet your heroic standards.
Correct if you are willing to give up the right's of others for your own safety, there are more pathetic expressions of fear but not many.
>Or is it possible that your unwillingness to confront these crazies has something to do with cowardice?
Ha! Ha! Yes! And your plan of rounding up people who look like bad people is the height of bravery! Why you ought to get a medal!
>GLOBAL JIHAD is the same as a pro-lifer or some domestic hate-group
Oh so it's only Muslim terrorists that bother you, well small surprise I'm sure you're quite sympathetic to your home grown Christian versions.
>OK, I'll live with the Israeli system, which has not suffered a successful terror attack
AAHAHAHAHAHAH! YES! There has never been a terrorist attack in Israel! Never ever!
Of course lately they've been pretty quiet and all they had to do was put up checkpoints every few blocks where officials go through your stuff, make everyone carry ID that they have to show to any soldier or cop that demands it, and so on. You ever been there? I have, it's the most "democratic" police state you ever did see where the fear and hate is so thick you could cut a knife.
You should move there, you'll fit right in and this would be a good time because immigration has dipped and more people are leaving as they realize that living that way isn't any way to live.
But they're safe inside their walls and for a true coward that's all that matters.
That is correct. Radical Islamic terrorisim is what bothers me most, and radical Islam in general is probably the most evil force on earth and need to be confronted at every opportunity. And yes, I have been to Israel many times, and I have been to many Muslim countries, (Egypt, Jordan, Lebanaon and Indonesia). Your discription of Israel is laughable, I recommened that my readers read it for fun, since most have traveled to Israel and will enjoy your description. So much for your credibility. And again, there has never been a sucessful attack on an Israeli civilian airliner in modern times. Read what I said.
ReplyDeleteOf course, I support the US effort in Iraq and and am happy that it has truned into such a sucess. Saddam is gone, and US troop are now phasing out. Good job guys!
I am absolutly in favor of profiling young Muslim males for searches at airports before they fly to this country. I would also be in favor of limiting immigration to America from Mulim countries until the global Jihad is defeated, and that may take decades. Cheers.
>Radical Islamic terrorisim is what bothers me most,
ReplyDeleteDespite the fact that smoking kills more Americans? Ah, but that doesn’t fire up your bigotry so I can see that wouldn't bother you.
>and radical Islam in general is probably the most evil force on earth
I would say the sexual slavery of women and children, the Chinese gulags and the child soldiers of Africa would rank higher but once again no Muslims so that wouldn’t interest you either.
>and need to be confronted at every opportunity.
And you think an impotent security measure that violates American Constitutional law and Western ideals is the way to do it?
> Your discription of Israel is laughable, I recommened that my readers read it for fun, since most have traveled to Israel and will enjoy your description. So much for your credibility.
Oh noes! Morons think I’m wrong about something I’ve witnessed! How will I recover?
>And again, there has never been a sucessful attack on an Israeli civilian airliner in modern times. Read what I said.
Okay, here’s what you said thicky:
“I'll live with the Israeli system, which has not suffered a successful terror attack.”
Gee, you didn’t say “airline” or “modern times”.
Huh, it’s like you realized you made a mistake and rather than admitting it like a man you Clintoned it. Please try to imagine my surprise.
>Of course, I support the US effort in Iraq and and am happy that it has truned into such a sucess.
AHAHAHAH! YES! Such a success! The Iraqis not only live in a police state they live in an incompetent one that suffers terrorist attacks every day. But hey, it’s just Muslims getting killed so small wonder you’d call that a “success”.
>Saddam is gone, and US troop are now phasing out. Good job guys!
Yes, excellent job, instead of Saddam now the Iraqis have to worry about criminals, terrorists, a creeping fundamentalism out of Iran, a destroyed infrastructure, a shattered economy and once the American troops are gone a civil war blood bath that will end with either an Ayatollah or a new Saddam in charge.
That will be Obama’s fault of course.
>I am absolutly in favor of profiling young Muslim males for searches at airports before they fly to this country.
I know you are, it’s a stupid racist idea so naturally you’d love it.
>I would also be in favor of limiting immigration to America from Mulim countries until the global Jihad is defeated, and that may take decades.
Yes and it will be defeated by lying about WMD, blowing more Muslims up and making sure they’re all treated like criminals. Good battle-plan General Eisenhower.
I’m grateful for your military service but more grateful that you’re no longer doing it.
"Smoking kills more people?" I thought you were in favor of "freedom".
ReplyDeleteShouting out "racist" and "bigot" is usually the last refuge of a scoundral who has no argument, unless you are wrapping yourself in "American ideals". Just becasue it comes out of your mouth, dosn't make it so. It's much more of a reflection on you and your intellect than it is on anyone else.
It was very interesting to see that you were simply unable to extrapolate that I was discussing airline security, which was what this entire conversation was about. Very telling. Everyone knows that there have been terror attacks in Israel. Your gatcha moment was kind weak.
I see lots of bad words for the current Iraqi regime. Any bad word for Saddam? Or were you a fan?
Sexual slavery of women and children is, in fact, an Integral part of radical Islam. As are children soldiers and child suicide bombers. A little reading might help you there. Cheers
>"Smoking kills more people?" I thought you were in favor of "freedom".
ReplyDeleteYes, that’s why I said that all smokers should be profiled.
You are so stupid, the point that you missed and man do you miss so many, is that in the grand scheme of things terrorism isn’t as big a threat as you bed-wetters make it out to be. See its real purpose it to terrorize, make its real targets afraid so when whiney bitches like you start howling that we need to reject our laws else the scary Muslims will kill us all, that’s how they win.
>Shouting out "racist" and "bigot" is usually the last refuge of a scoundral who has no argument,
Or maybe it’s an accurate description of someone who seems to think that guilt can be determined by race and creed.
Like, say, you.
>It was very interesting to see that you were simply unable to extrapolate that I was discussing airline security,
Yes, it was very silly of me to think that you had meant what you had said. It’s also very silly of you to compare Israel, a tiny country with a single airline and single major airport that doesn’t even begin to see the traffic that the US does.
Do you see how little you understand what you’re talking about?
>I see lots of bad words for the current Iraqi regime. Any bad word for Saddam? Or were you a fan?
Ha! Ha! Yes! I was the biggest fan of Saddam ever! In fact I even met him to sell him the tools so that he could build effective gas weapons to use against Iran and later the Kurds… oh no, wait, that wasn’t me, that was Donald Rumsfeld and the Reagan Administration.
All America did with the invasion of Iraq was make a bad situation worse, that’s not actually a good thing.
>Sexual slavery of women and children is, in fact, an Integral part of radical Islam. As are children soldiers and child suicide bombers.
And yes, if radical Islam were eliminated today there would be none of that nowhere!!
>A little reading might help you there.
Sure, and a massive amount would help you everywhere.
So lets get this straight, some guy sits in a little room in Toronto, Canada, and lectures US citizens about the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, and the meaning of "freedom." He tells us how brave he is. and that we are "pussies, stupid, idiots and bigoted, racists." That's funny! He sounds like some emotional teenager with first year debate class skills.
ReplyDeleteTake it easy Anonyumous, we want him to continue.
ReplyDeleteSo 'salvage' admits that Sexual slavery of women and children is, in fact, an Integral part of radical Islam? He just thinks that we should bother fighting it because such behavior will always exist. Is that right?
>So 'salvage' admits that Sexual slavery of women and children is, in fact, an Integral part of radical Islam?
ReplyDeleteIt's more of a side-effect of religious fundamentalism but certainly not unique to Islam or al Qeada and isn't' their main focus. There are Eastern European crime syndicates and African guerrillas that do make it their priority and who are far more evil than bin Laden could ever be.
Of course the criminals haven't successfully attack America so they don't terrify you like bin Laden's goons do.
Radical Islamists are motivated by religious dogma, the criminals are motivated by profit. The former in insane because religion is of course a delusion whereas the later profit and feed from the misery of others.
You don't know the difference between crazy and evil but then again one could fill an Internet with what you don't know.
Yes well, when these 'really sacrry' crime syndicates and African gurillas that you talk about, start flying planes into US buildings killing thousands of Americans, and routinely try to blow up airliners, and hijack a third of the worlds religion, and seek to blow up a major city and anything else they can do to kill 'infidels', then I'll start worrying about these really scary crime people and African gurillas that you mention.
ReplyDeleteIt's interestnig that your idea of 'bravery' is to ignore people who are openly trying to kill you. Some would call that stupidity, others might call it cowerdice.
It's also interesting that you wrap youself in the Constitution, and the American flag and "American ideals" only to find that you are not even an American. A little misrepresentation there?
I will be flying my 'cowardly' rear end to the Middle East on two weeks. While you brave keyboarder in Toronto will be lecturing about about 'American values' of which you neither live, nor know anything about. That's funny. Keep it coming.
>then I'll start worrying about these really scary crime people and African gurillas that you mention.
ReplyDeleteYou are stupid without end. Do you know what “context” means? Probably not but I mentioned those things not as threats to security but rather as examples of evils greater than radical Islam.
I am so happy you are not in the military anymore, your lack of reading comprehension makes me think you were a bigger threat to your fellow troops than any enemy. You strike me as the type to point the claymore the wrong way ‘round.
>It's interestnig that your idea of 'bravery' is to ignore people who are openly trying to kill you. Some would call that stupidity, others might call it cowerdice.
Once again the words on your screen reach your brain but that lump just isn’t up to the task of decoding the meaning.
Profiling simply does not work; your example of Israel’s track record of airline security is bogus because of the reality of scale. Very small and very large cannot be treated the same, I believe that Sesame Street teaches lessons along those lines, perhaps you should start watching it again as a refresher course.
>t's also interesting that you wrap youself in the Constitution, and the American flag and "American ideals" only to find that you are not even an American. A little misrepresentation there?
Okay, so we can add “misrepresentation” to the list of words you do not understand.
>I will be flying my 'cowardly' rear end to the Middle East on two weeks.
Wow. That’s very courageous of you to do the thing that countless tourists do every day, what will you do with all the medals they give for such a brave deed? Who will play you in the movie? How many schools will they name in your honor?
I call you a coward because you want to trade the rights of others for your own illusion of safety. I believe Benjamin Franklin has some thoughts on that sort of thing.
> While you brave keyboarder in Toronto
I’m not in Toronto, is there any end to your wrong?
>will be lecturing about about 'American values' of which you neither live, nor know anything about.
The wrong continues so I guess not. I would wager that I know more about American ideals and history than you do. I’ve often said that America is wasted on Americans just like you. That's why you should move to Israel, if there was ever a nation tailored for your kind that is it.
Here’s a little enlightenment for ya Sparky, the Founding Fathers got many of their ideas and ideals from Ancient Rome and her philosophers. One does not have to live in America or be an American to know a great deal about America and Americans; there is no great mystery.
Chatham, Toronto, Canada, whatever, it’s just good to see you finally fess up to not even being an American. Hmmm, I wonder why you would wrap yourself in "American values" without even mentioning that little fact? When exposed, you declare yourself an "expert" on America. That's rich!
ReplyDeleteHmmm, an Eastern European crime organization is greater evil and a greater threat than global Jihad? Wow! Let's let the reader make up his own mind on that, shall we :)
As a foreigner outside the US, you and your 'non-threatening' global jihadist pals have no 'constitutional rights'. In fact, Jihadists are enemy combatants, and should be treated as prisoners of war, and because they do not wear a uniform or represent a sovereign nation, even the Geneva Convention should not apply to them. But you are an expert on international law too, so let’s hear your best arguments for the jihadists.
I appreciate your enthusiasm for collectively punishing the entire population, for the actions of a small group of people emanating from a single community. Unfortunately for you, about 60% of Americans agree with me, While about 26% agree with you, and most of those 26% are the result of reflexive political correctness after years of conditioning. My guess it's more like 10% who really agree with you intellectually. But you keep at it, you might even convince somebody. You should also keep using terms like “stupid, idiot, bigot, racist,” that sort of thing, because it really adds to your argument. Cheers.
>Chatham, Toronto, Canada, whatever, it’s just good to see you finally fess up to not even being an American.
ReplyDeleteStupid, stupider and stupidest, Chatham is part of the GTA, I am not in the GTA nor have I said I was anything, not ever sure where I am has to do with the fact that you think that the Nigerian bomber looks Arabic and comes from Saudi Arabia.
And you really don’t know how to trace IPs, you should stop and spend that time trying to learn stuff.
> When exposed, you declare yourself an "expert" on America. That's rich!
Yes, right after I declared I was an American. When you read the words on your screen perhaps you could get someone who understands them to explain their meaning? Maybe they could use puppets and flash cards? You don’t seem to be up for the task on your own.
>Hmmm, an Eastern European crime organization is greater evil and a greater threat than global Jihad?
See? Even thought I explained the context, that we weren’t talking about threat but rather evil you still don’t understand. I can’t make it any simpler, please get someone to help you.
And a pack of grubby fanatics isn’t a threat to America or any Western nation, I know your fear and loathing make it seem so but if you read what you wrote you would see that you conceded that terrorism doesn’t actually kill that many Americans, drunk driving has a higher American body count than al Qeada could ever hope for. Terrorism exists to terrorize and it’s obviously worked well on you so you should screw up your courage and join those of us who live free, it’s not easy but it’s better than being a slave to fear.
>As a foreigner outside the US, you and your 'non-threatening' global jihadist pals have no 'constitutional rights'.
Yes! I am pals with them.
See this is why I know you are stupid, you say stupid things.
> In fact, Jihadists are enemy combatants, and should be treated as prisoners of war,
In some cases yes and in some case no, sometimes they need to be treated as criminals. Again context is key, I know you like to keep things simple because you are but the real world isn’t so neat and tidy.
>and because they do not wear a uniform or represent a sovereign nation, even the Geneva Convention should not apply to them.
I know you are stupid so you probably don’t know that there are other laws.
>I appreciate your enthusiasm for collectively punishing the entire population, for the actions of a small group of people emanating from a single community.
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I’m not really sure what you’re babbling about here, stop, take a deep breath and try again.
>Unfortunately for you, about 60% of Americans agree with me,
Well Ramussen is just about the most useless polling firm out there but even if you could find reliable statistics to support you point so what? Laws aren’t actually determined democratically, see that’s what the Constitution is for and it has some pretty clear ideas about “unreasonable search and seizer” and one example of this is thinking that you can judge someone by their race and creed. If you are confused about that, and clearly you are, I suggest you look to my example of Timothy McVeigh and pro-life activists.
And while you think that it only applies to Americans in America you miss the whole point of America which is typical of your type. When you’re getting ready to invade a Muslim country you scream about freeeeeeeeeeedoomm for all! But when it comes down to it you really don’t care, you just hate Muslims because they make you pee your pants so you want to watch them blow up real good on FoxNews.
Because you are not an American citizen, and you live outside of the United States, pretending to be an American, and pretending to be an expert on the US (until exposed), you can be forgiven for your ignorant statement: “Laws aren’t actually determined democratically.” Actually, ALL laws in the United States are determined democratically through the elected branch of government by majority vote. Whether the laws that are passed democratically are later found to be constitutional or not, is a matter for the judicial branch, if challenged.
ReplyDeleteSo in addition to being a fraud, you have also been found to be pathetically ignorant in areas in which you are a self-declared “expert.”
I understand that you don’t understand that you are, by default, a supporter of collective punishment for everyone, for the actions of a dangerous few. You don’t want to profile likely terrorists, because you would rather cowardly harass a little grandmothers instead, and call it “equality,” and then describe yourself as “brave” for doing it.
I understand that you are so shallow, that you don’t even understand the implications of your own position. Instead of self-reflection, you engage in shallow name-calling that reflects on your own low character as a human being.
The foreigner dosen't even know the difference between the legislative and judicial branches. Gee, I wonder why they call those in Congress (the legislative brance), 'Lawmakers'. I'm telling you, this guy is probably some teenager in Canada, or a Jihadi troll. God knows, they have a lot of those in Canada.
ReplyDeleteIn any event, his inability to conduct a basic intellectual discourse, shows a lot about him.
Arab men do fit the profile to most likely hijack a plane considering 100% of SUCCESSFUL hijackings in the last 20 years have been by Arab Muslims, but I think with this new attempt by a Nigerian Muslim, we need to realize that Islamic countries in Africa have taken a side in the war on terror, and isn't in ours. I do however love that if you write a blog about airport security that you are a bigot if you don't mention ever evil that has happened since the dawn of time. Radical islam is without a doubt the worst evil in our time, doesn't mean its the only one but it is an evil affecting too many lives. Its kind of like if the net had been around in nazi Germany and you blogged on the evils of the nazis, then some other zombie would have come out and said "Hey, why only talk of the nazis and their mass murdering evil regime, there are other evils you now, but you must be just an anti German bigot" that would be laughable, but it is the reality today. And to compare smoking (a personal choice) to the evils of radical Islam? WTH? That should have proven to you that this terrorist sympathizer is not all there. Obesity also kills Americans, so is a cheeseburger as evil as a suicide bomber? People have the freedom to smoke or eat bad foods, if it kills them-they willfully choose that. People don't willfully choose to get blown up by an islamonut. People have the freedom to eat, smoke and live terrorism free lives.
ReplyDeletePS: Oh yes, we did arm Saddamn Hussein under Ronald Reagan only after Reagan was forced to play the cards the Anti Semitic former President Carter had dealt him. You know, Carter forced the Shah (An American ally) to release terrorists and give them trials (Oh, sound familiar?) then the islamic revolution took over, some Jews where hanged, women where stoned, that sort of stuff. So after Carter had destroyed the Shah, and brought upon the islamic revolution, Reagan was forced to align himself with the lesser of two evils to prevent Iran-a now terrorist powerhouse-from winning the war.
I love that every Keith Olberman wannabee with a keyboard leaves out that little bit of history!!
Thanks Neocon Express, this has become my favorite blog, just remember that when "bigot" and racist" are uttered, that people who can't debate, defame.